Fili never dared to hope he would survive when he stood alone in ravenhill. In the 1977 animated movie version of the hobbit, only 6 of the dwarves live. The deaths of the three dwarves are far more satisfying in the book. Lost in the wilderness after a goblin raid, young fili and kili survive against all odds to grow up semiferal in the forest, while thorin and their mother believe them dead. Why did no one want to treat kili s wound after thorin left for the lonely mountain. However, in the appendixes of the return of the king novel, fili. The incident with the trolls wasnt that serious was it. Fili and kili were my favorite characters in the book, and i remember being really mad when they died. What mistake do fili and kili make when finding a cave for shelter. In his letters, tolkien never mentioned his reasons for killing fili and kili. The hobbit, or there and back again question about thorin. One does not simply separate kili and fili kili and fili i know the ending to the last movie and it makes me cry. Neither has ever travelled far, nor ever seen the fabled dwarf city of erebor. What happens is, thorin is retrieved from the battle field, in the book, and is badly injured and is on the verge of death and bilbo comes and they have that.
Tauriel did not explicitly share her feelings toward anyone in the movie but even in the books gimli is so totally devoted to galadriel that he does indeed love her in a nonromantic way. Sure, the romance didnt exist in the original book. How many dwarves of thorins ex company were alive during. Why were the wargs and goblins meeting in the forest clearing.
While the books made no mention of kili carrying a bow, it is presumed by. Before the quest to erebor, fili and kili probably lived in the blue. Especially when he is helpless and at the mercy of azog the defiler. Onefourteenth of the hoard is given to bard and some is given to bilbo. He is caring to his brother, uncle, bilbo, and also his mother. Almost instantly, the gruesome devils drop kili s brother fili from a high. Of the thirteen dwarves that set out along with bilbo baggins on the quest of erebor, three died in the battle of the five armies. Thorin leaving him behind and the attack on bards home does not. Fili and kili are younger, related to thorin, and have better eyesight. Heres the tolkien nerds guide to the third hobbit movie. Romantic moment of the week the star crossed epilogue of. Kili came to his aid first, followed by oin and gloin, before the.
I know that they do in the book but im not sure if they will in the movie. It is they who discover the ponies have gone missing in the trollshaws and investigate the trolls with bilbo. Thorin oakenshield is the deuteragonist of the novel, the hobbit, by j. Since we see most things from bilbos point of view it just says. They are my favorite characters in the whole hobbit book. Fili and kili in the hobbit, or, there and back again shmoop. What mistake do fili and kili make when finding a cave. I dont remember reading about their fall, but there was something in later text like, rest in.
Fili and kili also seem uncomfortable but willing to accompany bilbo down into the dragons passage, unlike any of the other dwarves 12. Jacksons version was entertaining, but im a purist and i and like the way tolkien did it. More than a decade later, thorin hears news of dwarves robbing local farms. Tolkien did start writing a sequel to lotr that takes place in gondor.
Fili and kili the one wiki to rule them all fandom. Fili and kili, nephews of thorin, are the youngest in the company of dwarves that visits bilbos house and sets out to reclaim their home in the lonely mountain. Thorin used a broken branch of an oak tree as a shield during. For both, the journey to the lonely mountain represents adventure and excitement. The youngest dwarves of thorins company, brothers fili and kili are energetic, adventurous, and ready to rock. The prominent casualties claimed by the war on the heroes side are thorin oakenshield and his two nephewsheirs fili and kili. Thorin, fili, and kili are really the only good casualties in this battle that the. Kili s sleeping songim a kili fan, he is my fav the hobbit character some are of fili and kili, but i dont mind it. Fili s last thoughts and feelings before and during his death, told through his perspective.
I remember in the chapter a new journey, when thorin died, and i remember something about fili and kili. There is a love triangle sublot between her, kili and legolas for the prince is also in love with her. Kili and fili, who also died in battle, are buried, too. Fili, who with his brother kili was the youngest dwarf in the company and therefore useful for his keen eyesight. What actually happened to tauriel at the end of the hobbit. She possibly died of a broken heart, returned to mirkwood, or. The brothers, along with thorin himself, did not survive the battle of five. So we would never hear of it even if it did happen.
The three deaths mean that the line of thror and thrain is extinguished and the kingship of erebor passes to dain ii ironfoot. By signing up, youll get thousands of stepbystep solutions to your homework questions. Did anyone else feel that fili and kilis deaths were cheapened in the. What page of the hobbit was the death of kili and fili. Fili and kili were the two most active dwarves of thorins company, and apart from. Bilbo leaves with gandalf, elvenking, and beorn and spends yuletide with beorn, staying with him till spring. While many naysayers despised the tauriel and kili starcrossed romance, i found much to adore in this poetic tale of forbidden love. As in the books, fili and kili serve as the scouts of the company. Tauriel was a captain of the mirkwood guard until she met kili and fell in love with said dwarf. Ask about middle earth the significance of fili and kilis deaths. His nephews fili and kili died defending him as he lay on the ground. An archive of our own, a project of the organization for transformative works. Kili is also young and innocent and when hes killed, innocence is no longer available in the battle. Shortly after, kili who is wounded and was ordered to stay behind by thorin, fili, oin and bofur knock on bards door asking him to help them with kili s wound.
Fili and kili were the two most active dwarves of thorins company, and apart from balin. I will not hide behind a wall of stone while others fight our battles for us. Kili, who with his brother fili was the youngest dwarf in the company and therefore useful for his keen eyesight. Bilbo took only two small chests, one full of silver, the other full of gold. Hi, i was on imdb and some utter asshole posted this topic. Unforunately, however, fili and kili, as well as thorin oakenshield, the king under the mountain, died because of the battle of five armies. Fili and kili in the books hello rtolkienfans, i am trying to make some character models of fili and kili and am trying to base their appearances off of tolkiens description of them in the book rather than the movies but im struggling to wrap my head around what he says about them in the book.
Kili is distinguished as the only member of the company who carries a bow unlike in the book, which implies more than one dwarf had a bow. While fili is more responsible than kili is he is sort of the opposites. It is unknown what became of her after the battle of the five armies. Speculation did beren encounter shelob in the valley of nan dungortheb. Such amazing acting, gah i love this scene so much.
Also remember that the dwarves in the book have little to distinguish them as individuals. He is the leader of the band of dwarves who want to reclaim his lost kingdom and gold from the dragon, smaug. In the book its not mentioned whether fili or kili died first or what the others felt in that moment. The hobbit, or there and back again kili the dwarf. Thorin ii oakenshield mortally wounded on the field, died soon after the battle, after having final words with bilbo. The apparent love triangle involving legolas, tauriel, and kili has struck many viewers as far beyond any tolkienish relationship, but im not so sure. It would be nice if they all died saving each other though, like thorin saving fili and kili and fili saving kili. They are particularly loyal to thorin because hes their uncle. I have read all the books but i think i got some details mixed up in my mind. Anyway, on lotr wikia, it says the same thing dwalin, bifur, bofur, bombur, gloin, nori and dori were alive, while thorin, fili and kili died in the battle of the five armies, balin died of sickness, ori got killed by goblins and oin got eaten by the watcher in the water. This is due to bilbo missing that part of the battle and only learning of the events after all was over. I dont remember any emotional scene or reason they died, it was as if tolkien just kind of threw it out there. In the original books, theres no need to imagine that thorin or fili and kili may have had mixed ancestry.
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